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Yet everyone seems to say it's 97% possibile, not 97% IMpossible...

- This is what I find most vexing. I could expound at length (the prior post was the highlights) about all the problems I've hit while vainly attempting to integrate complex legacy code into a XPage. Why doesn't anyone say that anywhere? Instead everyone says "you can call legacy Agents but you have to save first". That is kool-aid, plain and simple, because absolutely nothing I've seen about integrating my OO legacy code is as easy as saving first, then calling an Agent. Nothing.

- And now everyone is talking about how amazing R8.5.2 will be. Whatever. R8.5.2 doesn't exist, from a real-world development standpoint, and it won't exist for months until the beta is done. I used to trust that if all else failed Lotus would at least maintain backward compatibility. Even if R8.5.2 fixes legacy integration, that faith is no longer there; if R8.5.2 fixes legacy integration then that's what R8.5 should have been out of the gate, not something that wanders onto the scene over a year later, after reading all the XPages spin and being led into thinking legacy integration works now.

- If I were a shop looking to migrate a complex enterprise-level legacy application, *today*, I would avoid XPages completely, unless I had the budget to scrap the entire application and redo it from the ground up. If someone would have bothered to say that months ago, before I started this nightmarish gauntlet I would have avoided XPages like anthrax.

- Yet still I seem to be the only one against XPages and legacy migration, on R8.5.1FP2. Could be me, but in nearly thirty-five PMRs and a direct line to Lotus support, I would imagine someone would tell me I'm using their technology inappropriately by now. Instead I add to the SPR database I can't see.

And the nightmarish gauntlet continues...


Feedback response number DGIE85SULH created by ~Holly Zekhipisonnivu on 05/25/2010

XPages: why to use them? (~Alexis Minlute... 25.May.10)
. . Good summary... (~James Brewever... 25.May.10)
. . My comments (~Denise Xanaman... 25.May.10)
. . . . Thanks for the comments (~Alexis Minlute... 25.May.10)
. . It's not as bad as you think... (~Sanjay Quettum... 25.May.10)
. . . . It is as bad as you think... (~James Brewever... 25.May.10)
. . . . . . Trust me, no Kool-Aid here... (~Sanjay Quettum... 25.May.10)
. . . . . . . . Yet everyone seems to say it's 97% ... (~James Brewever... 25.May.10)
. . . . . . . . . . Just for others reading, not everyo... (~Elizabeth Minf... 26.May.10)
. . . . . . . . . . . . I agree completely! (~James Brewever... 26.May.10)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Heh... (~Sanjay Quettum... 26.May.10)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . that is not what I said (~Elizabeth Minf... 26.May.10)
. . . . OK Thanks (~Alexis Minlute... 25.May.10)
. . My thoughts (~Maria Xanjumib... 25.May.10)
. . . . Thanks for your comments (~Alexis Minlute... 25.May.10)
. . . . . . use the MS OOXML SDK V2 for Excel 2... (~Elizabeth Minf... 26.May.10)
. . . . . . . . Is that Java based? (~Alexis Minlute... 26.May.10)
. . . . . . . . . . no Java yet (~Elizabeth Minf... 26.May.10)
. . . . . . . . . . . . I'm generating the XML (~Alexis Minlute... 27.May.10)
. . . . . . Some of my thoughts (~Elizabeth Dwoj... 25.May.10)
. . . . . . . . Good comments (~Alexis Minlute... 25.May.10)
. . . . . . Dojo Option for Charts (~Maria Xanjumib... 26.May.10)
. . . . . . . . Yes, I'm using them in my other rep... (~Alexis Minlute... 26.May.10)
. . One more positive comment (~Alexis Minlute... 26.May.10)
. . . . don't wait MS will develop a conver... (~Patti Desvelut... 31.Jan.11)




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